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    Who did you think they were going to get for Scandella and Pominville? Stamkos? Ovechkin? We needed to shed salary, which was the main goal of this trade. I think its actually kind of amazing we managed to find a taker for Pominville. NTC or NMC or not he was going to be super difficult to move and we still managed to get it done. As far as Ennis goes? (shrugs) I think most would concede he's a place holder until guys like Kunin, Kaprizov and Greenway are ready to go. If he can stay healthy we could have pesky skilled forward on our hands who isn't 32+ years like we had before. We traded Scandella because we couldn't afford him at $4 million, it happens unless you'd rather part with Dumba. Dumba's still just 22 years old and even in a blah year produced more offensively. Unless we luck into a player in the draft that is that generational talent / steal etc...we're not going to have that go-to 30-goal scorer and instead rely on the committee route. That's nothing new here. Does it hurt us in the post-season, yes...but teams don't give up those kinds of players very often if ever.
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    They are going to be in a center bind again next year if they let Koivu go. Staal resurrected his career, so I'm sure some team will throw silly money at him. Even though Staal is over 35 and that will count towards a teams cap regardless of if he retires or what not. The Wild can find a fourth line center anywhere. So they are going to have EEK and maybe Kunin. I suppose in an emergency they could plug Coyle or Granlund in at a center position (neither would be ideal, but oh well). I think the best contract for both parties would be a Staal type deal. Long enough so the Wild don't have to rush EEK or Kunin, but not so long that the team is handcuffed again like they are with the Parise and Suter deals. So who's responsibility did Chorske feel the Wild's situation was? The players? GMCF assembled this team. Who signed Vanek (even after the coach wasn't convinced he was right for the team) when the team needed a defenseman? Who signed Pominville to a five year deal? Who signed Suter and Parise to $100M/10 yr deals? Who signed Dubnyk to a $30M/6yr deal after one good season? And if you look at most of the Cup champions lately, they have one (or more) stud player(s) that carried that team. Pittsburgh-Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Fleury Chicago-Kane, Towes, Kieth LA-Quick, Kopitar, Doughty Detroit-Zetterburg, Hossa, Lidstrom Anaheim-Getzlaf, Perry, Giguere Tampa-Lecavalier, Richards I don't think the Wild have ever had a player that would make this list. As you pointed out, the team refused to be bad enough to get that top five or even top three player. The closest they ever came was in 2005, when they got the fourth overall pick and squandered it on Benoit Pouliot (passing on Price, Setoguchi, Kopitar, Oshie, Neal, Statsny, etc). Usually they are picking in that 10-20 slot, where you get nice players, but not studs. And as you said, Dumba is up next year. Zucker as well. At some point the team needs to let the vets go and turn the team over to the kids. They are stuck with Parise and Suter until the Second Coming, so they need to be judicious with he rest of the roster...
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    1st in the Division 1st in the Conference Stanley Cup Champions Named 'the team of the 21st Century' Named Top Franchise in ALL of Professional Sports NHL GM of the Year Award named, The Chuck Fletcher (or colloquially known as the Chuckie) Jack Adams Trophy Winner, Bruce Boudreau Conn Smythe Award Winner, Mikko Koivu Pope declares the Wild to be the 'sacred protectors of Christendom' Colorado Avalanche folds because they lost their will to support an NHL franchise that is in the same division that we are in Trump tweets that he had no contact with the Wild during the campaign Mike Yeo caught returning to the Wild locker room to collect his good luck water bottle. Garry Bettman finally announces his resignation as commissioner of the NHL. The Wild win the Nobel peace prize for showing the world that you can win the Stanley Cup with no aggression whatsoever.
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    1st in the Division 1st in the Conference Stanley Cup Champions Named 'the team of the 21st Century' Named Top Franchise in ALL of Professional Sports NHL GM of the Year Award named, The Chuck Fletcher (or colloquially known as the Chuckie) Jack Adams Trophy Winner, Bruce Boudreau Conn Smythe Award Winner, Mikko Koivu Pope declares the Wild to be the 'sacred protectors of Christendom' Colorado Avalanche folds because they lost their will to support an NHL franchise that is in the same division that we are in Trump tweets that he had no contact with the Wild during the campaign
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    I look at this trade as Scandella for Foligno - we get a big, physical player and Buffalo gets a much needed D-man. We get a little cap relief in that deal. Fletch needed Pommer out to make other things work so Buffalo said "you then have to take Ennis off our hands." Again, we get a little cap relief as well. Scandella is the bigger deal so they give us a 3rd to match the 4th we gave them. Again, this had to happen. If not, then we just hand Vegas Scandella, get the $4 million in cap space and don't have much to show in free agency since we would still have Pommer's contract on our hands.
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    Sorry the humor passed right over your head. An old joke saying is "Win with Finns." Huala was a Finn. He's gone. Now I'd like to see the team's other two Finns gone. We way overpaid for Mikko and he has proven without a doubt he sucks in big NHL games, his lack of passion and petulance when he loses is not a winning formula, especially for a Leader. Yeah, no doubt he's a horrible loser, he sulks like a 6 year old when he does and brings down the whole team. My opinion is we will never win the Cup with Mikko as Captain and MiG our leading scorer. And now we're at the critical point where overpaying MiG could ruin the team for the next 5-7 years. If you think small, mild mannered, injury prone MiG is the guy who will lead this team to the Cup you're delusional.
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    I've been to several of these in years past, and loved them, but since they started having them on week days I can't attend. I'm very disappointed. Sends a message to working people from out of town, IMO.
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    It really was a Brian Rolston type of deal. He had a rough go of it, teams were not going to pay him for past glory so he needed to prove he could do it again. Yet if he has another good season people should not expect him to take another team-friendly contract in two years. As far as Koivu goes, I'm willing to see what life is like without him. I'd like to see a cultural shift. If he isn't willing to play for us for about $4 million then he can go elsewhere.
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    Hockey Wilderness' summary of Scrimmage #2, who stood out and who didn't Barry is a really good writer and him and I agree on the game. He provides a pretty nice synopsis and talks about who played well, who was invisible and who had a rough time. Enjoy!
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    I think the Wild got Staal for a reasonable contract because Staal's production had been on the decline over the last several seasons (61pts-54pts-39pts). Maybe this was due to age, playing on a weak Carolina team, trade rumors, traded to be "The Man" in NY, who knows. Maybe it was a combination of some or all of these factors. And maybe Staal took the Wild's deal because it was a low pressure situation. It allowed him to show he could still be productive, yet he wasn't "The Man" on the team. Improve his stats and then maybe get one last big payday... Koivu's production has been more-or-less steady (54pts-48pts-56pts) and this season his production increased (58pts). Koivu's been the face of the franchise for years now. He's also the captain. And reportedly the players love him as their leader. I think the team will be playing with fire if they come in with a cut rate deal. Koivu's got enough pride that he will walk, and some other team will throw silly money at him. Look at what TO did with Patrick Marleau: Same age, 3 years/$18M and his production has decreased over the last three years (70pts-57pts-48pts). You can bet Koivu's agent is eyeballing that contract in a big way. Personally I do not believe Koivu was worth that $6.7M cap hit. That contract he got compares favorably to one that Pavel Datsyuk got in 2007. And at the time of the signing, Datsyuk played more games than Koivu (380-362) and had more production than Koivu (343pts-255pts). There is not one person on this board who can convince me that Mikko Koivu is the same caliber of player as Pavel Datsyuk. But circumstances dictated the situation. He was the best available center in the upcoming UFA class. The Wild were trying to turn the corner from being an expansion team to being a regular in the Playoffs. You can't become a Playoff team if you regularly allow your best players to leave via free agency because you are more concerned with the bottom line than building a championship caliber team...
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    1st in the Division 1st in the Conference Stanley Cup Champions Named 'the team of the 21st Century' Named Top Franchise in ALL of Professional Sports NHL GM of the Year Award named, The Chuck Fletcher (or colloquially known as the Chuckie) Jack Adams Trophy Winner, Bruce Boudreau Conn Smythe Award Winner, Mikko Koivu Pope declares the Wild to be the 'sacred protectors of Christendom' Colorado Avalanche folds because they lost their will to support an NHL franchise that is in the same division that we are in Trump tweets that he had no contact with the Wild during the campaign Mike Yeo caught returning to the Wild locker room to collect his good luck water bottle. Garry Bettman finally announces his resignation as commissioner of the NHL. The Wild win the Nobel peace prize for showing the world that you can win the Stanley Cup with no aggression whatsoever. Edmonton Oilers 30th next season. McDavid would not be a considerable factor of the team for the next coming seasons. Team nothing was showing and missing playoffs for more than a decade despite of having a 1st draft picks every year. Did not pass a 2-nd playoff round this year. Still MILD and raw for the Stanley Cup finals. IronRanger218er (aka Edmonton fan) peacefully transformed from the most aggressive Wild's team hater into the most MILD and pleasant supporter (aka Minnesota fan). I was pretty patient regarding him before. LIG do we have a moderator of our fan zone? That hater should be blocked or at least should not be able to start any topics, because our players are reading fans messages and it is a zombie distracting tactics. If you say 100 times that team is Mild, than on a 101-st time they will really believe about that as an axiom and will never improve. I am at 4 different forums and moderators usually taking care of these absolutely zero supportive persons. It seems that this individual was born without any kindness in his brain, but only hate.
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    No, they're playing poker. Both are restricted free agents, so they basically have to deal with the Wild. Both Granlund and Niederreiter filed for arbitration, which means there will be no holdout with them. Either they come to an agreement with the Wild before the arbitration hearing in August, or the arbitrator will make the decision for them, which is either a one or two year deal. After that deal, they will be unrestricted free agents. Usually things are decided before arbitration. Players try to point out how great they are and why they deserve the compensation they are asking for, and the team will point out all the faults of the player and why they don't deserve anywhere near that compensation. Arbitration can be a nasty process, and feelings can get hurt. I think the reason it is taking so long is that the Wild don't have a lot of cap space. They have to squeeze Granlund, Niederreitter, and Foligno into that cap space, and also have to deal with the fact that Mikko Koivu is now eligible for a contract extension as well. According to Capfriendly.com, they have a little over $15M to sign six players...
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    #1 and roll to a cup because Doobs will hit his stride in the playoffs this time instead of three months early.
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    Maybe this is a good thing. If the kid signed for three years, it means he will be 23 when the contract is up. And in three years, he should be ready to play in the NHL...
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    I read somewhere that no one from the organization has even talked to the kid, just his agent.
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    Is it too early to go down the "Has the Team Improved" path again? I think we can, not a lot is going to change IMO, the line-up is essentially set except for a couple of bit players. Bottom Line - we're in the same situation we were in two years ago - there have been NO significant improvements, just like two years ago. So with about the same cast of characters we'll get about the same result. IMO the Wild will make the Playoffs with a few points to spare. Probably not as many points as 2016-2017 but with a very good chance to advance at least a round instead of another one and done. I've come to really like the Scandella/Pommer for the wrong Foligno/Ennis trade but we're talking about losing a dud and a 3rd pair Dman for a solid 3rd liner and a longshot. As long as the Wild makes the Playoffs anything can happen but with Mikko as Captain and MiG as the team's "Star" I just don't see them gutting it through the Playoffs to the Cup. Parise is a big question mark for me. Last year was a wasted season but I wouldn't be surprised to see him pull out one more good to excellent year. Dumba and Brodin have to lose their diapers and start playing like men, too. As in, respectively - Dumba quit playing like the scarecrow (get a brain) and Brodin quit playing like the cowardly lion (have some courage, physically and offensively). And of course, if Doobie sucks, the team sucks. If Doobie is a stud, the team dominates.
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    *next* season???!!! That's pretty much what he has been (or should have been) for the past 5 seasons.
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    IMO Ennis is another Schroeder, just better. He should be a good fill in on the top 2 lines when there's an injury or a slump. Also, like Schroeder, he might be a good fit with big guys like Stewart or Foligno, balancing speed with strength. I am positive that Foligno is NOT a zombie. He's an old school grinder, a big guy who will crush you into the boards and have no problem dropping the gloves if you get froggy. I love his addition to the team. Think White but bigger, slightly more talented, and not quite as dirty. The more I think about it, the more I like the trade for many reasons: 1. Cap Relief - a $4 mil 3rd pair Dman is a bad thing for cap management. 2. Size and toughness added to a roster that clearly, I'd say desperately, needs it. 3. Pommer gone. Big addition by subtraction.
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    Scandella has been kind of inconsistent over the last year or so IMO. I don't think Quincey is an upgrade or even a stay even, but I don't think anyone is expecting him to be. As far as Ryan Murphy goes....meh, IMO he was a high-risk pick when he was drafted (boom or bust kind of player). Carolina hasn't been so good that he just couldn't find a way into their lineup. Recently they've steadily added some good defensive prospects in Pesce, Hanifin and soon to be Fleury but Murphy had all the chances in the world to make it there and he couldn't on a team that really needed him to step up and have an impact. Quincey will be a reasonable 3rd pairing defenseman for us and I do think he's an upgrade over Prosser, which to me is the player that Quincey is replacing. Olofsson or Reilly are the players you're really going to be placing in what used to be Scandella's role IMO.
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    I wish we had a backup to put some pressure on Dubnyk, like the Ducks did by bringing in Miller. I'm ok with the remaining roster until we have injuries.
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    Jettisoning the last 2 Quebecois pieces to the roster. Who's in charge here ... Dougie Woog?
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    THERE IS A GOD! Who cares what we got in return - we got rid of that pansy. Foligno is a good team player too. Fletch, buy some hooker to suck your sweaty balls - you've earned it!!
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    your dreaming Davey stay off bald eagle lake the water is doing something to your head. to many moves never happen
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    Penguins are ranked 20th tallest team by average and 27th heaviest team by average and have won the cup last 2 years. Size means nothing in hockey anymore. You will eventually (hopefully) realize that. Oh and chicago is 28th and 29th
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    T.J. Oshie's new deal is going to set a new standard for horrible contracts!!
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    Absolutely - IN RETROPSPECT - Hanzal was a big mistake. A classic bad fit. Big, very slow guy on a team that won because of speed... Easy 20-20 hindsight IMO. Hanzal is a way over-rated layer. He's a BIG 3rd Line grinder guy who can play decent D. But his total lack of any speed or quickness is a huge liability. IMO the team would have done better with Haula getting those minutes instead of Hanzal. 20-20 hindsight...
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    No it's getting real bad. Praise is spent phsyical wise, weber always made sutter look like a 8 mil a player and he's getting old, mikko has always been a great defensive center but he has lost his touch and always is a half stride off his targets, doobs likes firing up farm equipment for his old man and has a mental mind frame of a 14 year old bantam, coyle wants out of minnesota hence the a bright inconsistent play. Coyle would be a new man on a differnt team trade him before he flops, granny is improving but no need to build around a squirt without a shot, Nino would thrive with on a differnt team, Zucker is a bright spot but he seems like he don't wanna be here. This team needs to sell and rid the praise suter contracts before any deep runs happen. That's 10 years out at best! This team is a failure and you'll see the ship sink fast in 2017-18
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    2017 Wild Prospect Development Camp Some thoughts on this year's camp. Might as well call an invitational with the amount of invitees this year! Wow.
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    I vote culture shift and new blood
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    I wouldn't re-sign Mikko... period and firmly believe the Wild will finally be headed in the right direction with him traded or retired. Until then I do not see the Wild going any further then the past has already shown. Each cup winning team especially as of late has a stand up Captain... a stand up leader the team gets behind. Mikko has never been anything more then a great compliment player. I agree 100% he is a great person, a nice guy, a great friend to have, a good side kick at best but not a winner alone. He is not one of them players that will carry his team on his back and never will be.
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    1st in the Division 1st in the Conference Stanley Cup Champions Named 'the team of the 21st Century' Named Top Franchise in ALL of Professional Sports NHL GM of the Year Award named, The Chuck Fletcher (or colloquially known as the Chuckie) Jack Adams Trophy Winner, Bruce Boudreau Conn Smythe Award Winner, Mikko Koivu Pope declares the Wild to be the 'sacred protectors of Christendom' Colorado Avalanche folds because they lost their will to support an NHL franchise that is in the same division that we are in Trump tweets that he had no contact with the Wild during the campaign Mike Yeo caught returning to the Wild locker room to collect his good luck water bottle. Garry Bettman finally announces his resignation as commissioner of the NHL.
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    1st in the Division 1st in the Conference Stanley Cup Champions Named 'the team of the 21st Century' Named Top Franchise in ALL of Professional Sports NHL GM of the Year Award named, The Chuck Fletcher (or colloquially known as the Chuckie) Jack Adams Trophy Winner, Bruce Boudreau Conn Smythe Award Winner, Mikko Koivu Pope declares the Wild to be the 'sacred protectors of Christendom' Colorado Avalanche folds because they lost their will to support an NHL franchise that is in the same division that we are in Trump tweets that he had no contact with the Wild during the campaign Mike Yeo caught returning to the Wild locker room to collect his good luck water bottle.
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    1st in the Division 1st in the Conference Stanley Cup Champions Named team of the 21st Century Named Top Franchise in ALL of Professional Sport
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    1st in the Division 1st in the Conference Stanley Cup Champions Named team of the 21st Century Conn Smyth to Mikko Koivu.
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    I look at it this way. 30 other teams passed on him for four rounds before the Wild chose him. There must have been something there for teams to pass on him that many times...and I don't care how great a player he is in the KHL or on the Russian Olympic team. He has scored exactly as many goals for the Wild as I have...
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    Sorry, you already mentioned the lack of contact... Was that in a Russo article? I don't remember where I read it.
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    LIG. Thanks for FIFY. I did see a mistake right after it was published (of course Sudbury instead of Woodbury). I was not very attentive and not corrected ASAP.
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    Yeah, right, no doubt! Zooker owes all his success to baby jesus! Fact is, Zooker and his speed make any line he's on dangerous. Thanks KA.
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    There's that word hope again alongside rekindle... lol
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    Sorry Koivu - but after next season you will be nothing more than a 3rd line center - to me that is worth a 2-3 year contract for $3 million per yr.. If someone wants to overpay for him then we let him walk and enjoy the $6 million saved in cap space.
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    5.5 sounds like a potential steal.
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    Glad I'm not the only one who didn't mind this trade. Every where else I've seen people are saying how dumb we are or how bad of a trade this is for us. While I was not a huge fan of scandella this last year losing him hurts but to get rid of missinville as well is a major plus. I am really excited about foligno, young guy who hits and hopefully can stay on a puck unlike Stewart who just so easily gets bumped off. Only thing is I wish we didn't give up the 4th and still got the third and or at least got some prospect in the deal but oh well. Can't wait to see see these guys on the ice hopefully ennis stays healthy.
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    It wasn't about the contract year. It was moving rfom center to wing. If only bonehead Yeo would've comprehended that it wouldn't have taken so long. Granny has played exactly the same way all the season except he's improved his game. I eat my words if I see him turn into a Bummerlike soft pussy shy of any contact.
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    Interesting article. I think the reason we're not seeing much action from the Wild is that every other team knows the Wild have painted themselves into a corner and the 29 other teams now are waiting to see how desperate the Wild become. I also think the Wild are going to wait and see what happens to the FA pricing on some of the individuals you mentioned in your article. The longer the wait goes on, the less they may have to pay for a Justin Williams or Brian Boyle...
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    Folin started off the season well until he hurt his knee and never responded well when returning. Not sure if it was mental or flipping in and out of the line-up didn't allow him to regain the confidence. I like his physical play which we need to address. Prosser is just a good #7 guy to have for $750,000 a year and no complaints.
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    Thanks for the article. I don't know. I think the Wild will be lucky if one of these guys makes the team. None of them sounded very impressive, but then they are all third rounders or later. In reality drafting guys this late is nothing more than a crap shoot...
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    Everywhere on this message boards people are saying we need size, we had Tuch which could have been a 3rd liner at worst we had Hanzal but cannot afford him anymore (thank you fletcher on giving pom-pom a nm clause and giving stupid contracts away to people who only had 1 good season (duby,spurg,scandel,etc.)). People are down on hanzal, yes no speed (but the so called speed players we have don't do anything anyways) but has the size,defensive ability, face-off winner and has an edge to him. He's never going to be 1 or 2 center man unless it's with a team like Arizona or a team that the top scorer has 40 to 50 points. He got the money because Arizona had no one else, he would be wonderful on 3rd line for us, and also look at his numbers after the trade and figure it out if he had played a full season or even 70 games for us. Size and aggressive are not in fletchers mind, I think he was forced by Boudreau to sign Staal and Stewart which was 1 of the best things he has done in years. Take a look at the draft so far, 5'10 and 5'8, boy we are getting huge. Guaranteed Greenway will not sign here and we will loose another sizeable player when he sees what is going on here. Makes you wonder why he's not signed already and he chose to go 1 more year in boston. So with all that, forget it we are not getting bigger because in the offices eyes small, speed, injury prone and headaches are what is going to bring the cup (not here of course but the crystal ball they use in the office says so). Looking at the deals that have been done I believe we could have done something comparable or even better but we are going to wait till someone about 5'7 - 5'9 comes around.
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    The Coyotes are going to have a nice top pairing with him and Oliver Ekman-Larsson. Raanta is a decent upgrade over Mike Smith as well. Stepan for the 7th overall pick tonight plus a good prospect... Why not.
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    I got a staph infection a few years back. Its not something you mess around with. While the conspiracy theories are interesting, I'd believe it more if Hossa wasn't still a good player. He still is...so...(shrugs)